Quickbooks & How to Use It

Quickbooks & How to Use It

An interview with Quickbooks Coach Kayla Schmidt on why you need to use bookkeeping software for your business

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Welcome to the Twin Cities Collective podcast conversations with creatives. I'm very excited. This is a new month, all about accounting, bookkeeping, finance. And so our very first guest is actually our very first in person guest. And this is Kayla from savvy Berg consulting. So do you want to introduce yourself?

Kayla Prusinksi 2:16

Hi, yeah, my name is Kayla. I have a QuickBooks training business called savvy bird consulting. And I'm based out in Northeast Minneapolis. But I kind of travel wherever you are.

Jenna Redfield 2:28

Yeah. And so most of your clients are local based. And you do can you kind of explain how that works, how the consulting works?

Kayla Prusinksi 2:35

Yeah, so primarily, what I do is I meet with clients who are using QuickBooks. Most of my clients are using QuickBooks Online, I do have a couple on QuickBooks desktop still. But I come out to where you are, which can be an office, home office or a coffee shop, kind of whatever your choices. And we just kind of walk through whatever your questions are with QuickBooks. So sometimes its clients who have never used QuickBooks before. So we'll just kind of run through the basics. And I take the first couple of minutes really understanding what you want out of like what you want to do with the financial software, if you want to invoice out of it, or if you're using something like PayPal, or stripe or square some other thing to invoice out of. And then kind of what your expenses are and how you kind of deal with those do primarily use credit cards, or do you primarily use like bank withdrawals? Maybe you write checks all the time, kind of getting a feel for what you do in the real world. So we can make sure that we get that all captured in this accounting software. Yeah.

Jenna Redfield 3:39

So how did you get started with this business? What's your background?

Kayla Prusinksi 3:45

I actually graduated college 10 years ago. So when I

from accounting, and I worked at a CPA firm for seven years, and about

let's see genuine of 2014, I left my accounting firm, and went overseas for about a year and a half. And when I got back two years ago, I kind of looked around and said, What am I going to do? Where am I going to make money so I can pay some bills now that I'm back in the States. And doors just started opening up for me to help people with their QuickBooks. I had really become like an expert in QuickBooks. So friends and family knew that I was really good at it. So when I got back, they were kind of like, Hey, you need a job. Come help me with this. And doors just kind of started opening up from there.

Jenna Redfield 4:37

Yeah, so then you decided to take it into a full time job. So how did it go from from just freelancing basically, to now having this be your like job? Like when what When did you decide like, Oh, I don't need another job?

Kayla Prusinksi 4:51

Yeah, well, actually, since I got back two years ago, I haven't had another job. Oh, yeah. So um, I kind of came back in, I don't know if you've ever lived overseas. But there's a bit of a reentry process where you kind of have to get used to what life is like in the United States. So I took some time doing that. I watched children kind of a little bit on the side. But accounting was something that I could very easily jump back into, and didn't have to kind of go through a learning process. So I started back into it, and it kind of picked up and I didn't have a ton of expenses right away. So as my expenses have grown, my business has grown. So that's been really nice.

So I didn't Yeah, this has been my only job. Since Yeah,

Jenna Redfield 5:42

since I went home. Wow, that's crazy. So can so for those of you who who are listening, if you're creative, maybe accounting might scare you. I know it scares me a little bit. Can you explain what QuickBooks is? And like how it works? what it is like? What is the what is the software? Exactly? Yeah. So

Kayla Prusinksi 5:58

QuickBooks is just a full encompassing accounting software. So for instance, when you go to your tax accountant at the end of the year, or you go to your own tax software, if you do your own, you're going to need to know for your business how much money you made. And you're going to need to know where you spend all that money, whether it's going to advertising or equipment, or it's going to you personally, those kinds of things. So QuickBooks will track all of that for you. And it can track what I like about it is that it can track things from just like the smallest of detail. So if you want to just know that, like the money came in, is going to revenue, the money going out is going to these things, and you don't really want a lot of detail, it can handle that. But if you really want to track a lot of detail, you can do the invoices, you can track who the money's coming from, you can track who you're spending it to. And you can track to buy like, kind of by like categories. So like for your stock photos, if you have like different kind of categories. So like, say you have a lot of people who want photos for weddings, or you have a lot of people who want photos for like, just different small business things, you want to track those, you can actually set up different things in QuickBooks to be able to say like, How much money did I make, but also, how much should it cost for me to do that, you know, if you're doing weddings, maybe you need to advertise by going to a lot of wedding conventions. And that's a lot of cost. You know, so it kind of helps you figure out what thing that I'm doing in my businesses making the most money. So you can keep doing that?

Jenna Redfield 7:36

For sure. Because I think a lot of people don't realize some of the expenses of certain businesses. For me, this business I have with stock photos, almost 100% of my costs are props. versus a wedding photographer, a lot of their expenses are more. Yeah, like what you said conventions going to networking events, advertising in newspapers, or magazines. It's all different friend, depending on the client. So what kind of clients do you usually work with? Like, what are they in the creative world? Or kind of how does how does that how what kind of niches Do you work with?

Kayla Prusinksi 8:08

Yeah, I work right now a lot with the creatives. And I love it.

I think it's it's a cool balance that to work with someone who's very creative. And it helps me to be creative in some ways of kind of learning their style of understanding things and being able to show them how to use QuickBooks in a way that they can understand and use language that they'll understand. Because I think accounting is very, it can be very, like cold and rigid, but being able to kind of give some warmth to it and like show and answer questions that are probably confusing to the average person who didn't go to college. Yeah. So yeah, right now I work with a lot of creatives. I would say most of them. My clients are kind of the sole owners. So I do have a couple where, you know, they've got a couple employees and some are bigger, but I would say the majority are

Jenna Redfield 9:10

just solo facility owners. I've heard a lot. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of creatives, for sure. So when you come to QuickBooks, I know there's a few different kinds of QuickBooks. We kind of talked a little bit before we started, but could you kind of explain the differences between the self employed and QuickBooks Online? I know that confuses me. So could you kind of explain the differences? Yeah,

Kayla Prusinksi 9:33

yeah. So QuickBooks Online was there, QuickBooks is original online accounting, and it has three different versions. And it's basically an online alternative to the desktop version, which the desktop has been around forever. So it will do pretty much everything that desktop will do. So it's very robust. There are some limited, that it cannot do that the desktop can, but also some great things that it can do that the desktop cannot. The QuickBooks self employed is a new kind of feature that or subscription that QuickBooks has come out with in the last year or so. And I would say my recommendation would be more for people who are more of like a hobby business, the way that it's built, is, if you have only one bank account for your business and personal Hmm, a great perk to it is it does track auto miles. But you, you can't really get some great reports that you can on the quickbooks online version. And so that's where I, I kind of see its downfall. And I would love to see better reports. And QuickBooks is really great with feedback. They have a team who just goes through all of the feedback that's in there, they kind of prioritize it. So that's great. But yeah, I would love to see better reports in the self employed. But if you are just a really small business, you're kind of in the hobby stage. And that's where you want to where you want to live, then that's great, like self employed would be great. It does track autopilot, which is a great feature. The downside is you cannot move your business from self employed into the QuickBooks Online, which I don't really know why that is, it would seem like a great feature as you grow your business to be able to do that. So the QuickBooks Online, unfortunately, at this time does not track out of miles. But it is more robust of being able to track invoices, being able to track bills, give you better reporting that will just report so you probably won't even look at when reporting that will really help you understand your business and make you know, really good financial decisions from that.

Jenna Redfield 11:55

Yeah. Because that That to me is confusing, because there's so many options. So also question, so why QuickBooks over other software's? Why did you decide to use QuickBooks?

Kayla Prusinksi 12:08

Yeah. So when I got started 10 years ago, in accounting, the CPA firm that I was working for, we primarily used QuickBooks for our clients. So I've been using it. And at that firm, I was really kind of known as the QuickBooks expert, I actually started training while I was at that firm. So if any client came in, and they just needed to know how to do things in QuickBooks, I was I went down and train them. Or if we had, you know, this really complex thing that we wanted to figure out how to do in QuickBooks, they asked me to figure it out. So it kind of made sense for me to just stick in the QuickBooks area versus go to other products, which are great. But there's such a, such a large market of people who use QuickBooks, especially QuickBooks Online, that I wanted to really focus in on be really great at offering the service that they need, because I get questions all the time of things that I still don't quite know how to do in QuickBooks. So I just felt like in order to provide like the best service for my clients would be to really become an expert in just one software versus diversifying any other software,

Jenna Redfield 13:19

for sure. Because I feel like I know a lot about a lot of different software's, but it's hard to be like super focused on one. So how does your How does your sessions with your clients work? What do those sessions look like?

Kayla Prusinksi 13:33

So usually, when I have a client who's just like, I need help, I want to hire you. And it's kind of like it, I have some clients who come to me and they're like, I just need to learn this one thing. And so that's kind of easy to just meet with them for an hour or two and show them that one thing. But if it's, hey, I need help, I just started or I've been using this for a year, and I don't know what I'm doing. What I recommend is to to our sessions, I like to keep at two hours, because anything less than that is not quite enough information. And anything more than that, I start to get the deer in the headlights clients are overwhelmed. They don't quite retain anything after that. So and the two sessions, I think, is really great to get that really good foundation. So the first session we I get to know your environment of how you want to use the software. And then we kind of walk through each of those pieces of entering in the revenue, if it's invoices of reusing the bank feeds, which is an automatic import from your bank. And then we walk through how you spend money. So if it's credit cards, we might do bank feeds for that, or how do you manually enter those and you write checks? How do you manually enter that. And then that kind of takes up the whole first session, I give you homework until you go work on this go practice it is okay to make mistakes. That's one of the great things that I like about QuickBooks. Almost everything is reversible. You can make mistakes, you can put stuff in wrong categories, we can change it later. If you name something the wrong thing, we can change the name. It's really malleable in that respect, which is nice for people who are just wanting to get used to it and think that they're going to break it. It gives flexibility in that. And then we come back and we go over your questions, we kind of take a look at what you've entered, you know, did you enter it in the right categories? Are themes making sense? What questions do you have? And then we'll go over a bank reconciliations and bank reconciliations I think are the one of the most important forgotten pieces of QuickBooks.

So a bank reconciliation, just make sure that everything that we have in your QuickBooks actually happened in the bank, and everything that actually happened in the bank is in your QuickBooks. And we have it all recorded correctly. Sometimes I see that there are duplicate entries. Sometimes things are just missing. Even with bank feeds, it's not 100% foolproof, so we just want to make sure that everything at the end of each month has mapping. Yeah, yeah, sure.

Jenna Redfield 16:18

Because I think that's the to me that I think is the most time consuming part. Is that what you found? Or what the IRS is adding the items? What do you think is more time consuming? actually doing a bank work? Until Yeah, where you kind of check everything? Yeah, like, it takes a lot of like, keen eyes to look through and make sure because I've done that with the my own accounting software that I use, I've had to go through and be like, Okay, did this go through the same time? You know, all that stuff? So what how, how do you think that? Or what is the most difficult process, I guess, as part of the QuickBooks that you've seen from your customers?

Unknown Speaker 16:48

Yeah, um, I think, the most difficult and really depends on the client, apparently.

Kayla Prusinksi 16:56

Yeah, because some people they get it really quick. And some people certain things searchers harder than others. And depending on how they want to do stuff, kind of can make it harder not. We were talking earlier about like square and stripe and how many years and I've heard a lot of feedback from clients that the you can get like an app to integrate them. And I've heard feedback from clients that that just does not work. So what kind of hang up is that I've, that I've seen is when you get the information downloaded from your bank, you see stripe and you see like the net after the login, you know, you're there. You're like, okay, so I built for $100. But I only see 97. So which client does this actually go to? How much should I actually make? So that's kind of one of the harder things that we've had to work with is just figuring out what those fees were? And how do you actually enter that into QuickBooks because they don't have an app that actually does that? Well, for you? Yeah. The PayPal one, that one does it pretty well for you. Okay, so like, that's a benefit of? Um, yeah, so things like that, or things like using a personal credit card for business transactions. But your personal credit card also has personal trends. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 18:15

So sort through that,

Kayla Prusinksi 18:17

yeah. Having to kind of sort through that, and how do you pay it? And how do you make sure that you have all of those expenses, that's where some difficulties can come up?

Jenna Redfield 18:26

Yeah, that's why I recommend to everyone listening to get a separate business bank account, because then it makes a lot easier. So you have like, I have a separate debit account, or whatever, for both just Twin Cities Collective as well as my own business so that if I ever do any expenses for anything, I haven't separated, right? So it's easier for trip to track in the bank? Is that kind of what you would also recommend?

Kayla Prusinksi 18:48

Yeah, yeah, definitely, like, especially if you have, I think a lot of people have LLC is now an LLC is a separate entity. So you really don't want to have your own separate bank account for that. And I would recommend a separate credit card for it. I think it's kind of hard sometimes for business entities to get a credit card. So even if you get a personal credit card, but you don't use it only for business. I think that's really helpful. Just because we don't want at the end of the year, you'd be missing a huge expense that you put Yeah, like if you purchase equipment, and you use you know, your personal credit card or your personal checking checkbook to purchase it, because you know, that's where you had your savings or whatever, then at the end of the year, if you miss that expense, that's a huge deduction that you're not able to take.

Jenna Redfield 19:37

Yeah, that's true. Because that's one thing about a lot business expenses as it can be. With the tax whole the tax thing, you can get money back or you don't have to pay taxes on certain things, if their business expenses. How does that work? I'm not I'm not sure if that I know you don't do as much about taxes. But how does that work with business expenses for I guess, for tax purposes?

Kayla Prusinksi 19:58

Yeah, yeah. So I don't have my CPA and I don't do taxes. I used to work a CPE taxes. So I had, you know, someone, all of that for me. So I don't like to give tax advice.

Jenna Redfield 20:09

Yeah, but but just explaining kind of the basic concept of what what is, I guess, tax deductible? Maybe? Yeah,

Kayla Prusinksi 20:16

yeah. So there, there's kind of a rule of thumb that if it is, like a specific and if it's a specific, but if it's unnecessary expense for your business, then

then it is kind of a business expense.

So, you know, things that are actually going to producing your income, I guess, as an example. Okay. So you know, we have here, your, your camera, the tripod for your camera and the lights, you need these photos, you can't really get around that. Yeah, so these are the business executives, you know, things like OR I'm just going to stop at caribou on the way into the office is not a business expense. You know that.

Jenna Redfield 21:05

So if you're meeting with a client, would it be? Yes. Okay. So you have to you just, I think just thinking about it from the way of, am I doing this for my business? Specifically, kind of how you've kind of made that rule of thumb?

Kayla Prusinksi 21:19

Yeah, yeah. So it's, um, yeah, I mean, you know, you have a computer, you need pens for your business to write things down notepads. But you know, if you're getting all these pens, just to use them personally, or? I don't know, it's kind of hard to small business. Yeah, I'm a ton of expenses. True. Depends on kind of depends

Jenna Redfield 21:41

on if you Yeah, cuz I think depends on the small business. If you have a location, if you have employees, obviously, there's a lot more expenses. But if you're a solo printer, for me, I've actually tried to bring my expenses down, because I haven't been buying as many props. So like, I honestly don't have that many expenses. I paid for my website. Yep. You know, just those recurring expenses, like I'm nine subscriptions. That's basically all I pay for right now. For my businesses, online subscriptions, to different websites that I have to use. But yeah, so it's interesting to see how how people use their money going back into their business, in terms of all of that. So you only do local clients, and how do they find you locally?

Kayla Prusinksi 22:22

Yeah, I have. QuickBooks has a great pro advisor, website, that it's kind of just a directory that they have us all listed in. So I am Advanced Certified in the QuickBooks Online. So I'm just listed right there at the top. And clients can either find me by doing like a Google search of QuickBooks help. And if the pro advisor website pops up, or directly in the QuickBooks app, there's find a pro advisor near me. So I moved to Minneapolis, back at the end of October. And I think that being in the cities, now I'm getting definitely more creative, my Intel more, you know, solid, premier clientele, and just getting more business being there versus I used to live in Chan Hatton, where, you know, there's not a lot of small businesses

that kind of need my help out there. Yeah, for sure. So

Jenna Redfield 23:13

how did you come up with a name for your business? Because it's unique? Yeah, I want to hear the story.

Kayla Prusinksi 23:18

Yeah, it's a fun story. My family used to call me bird growing up, I don't actually know where that came from. So my name was just bird. And about five years ago, I wanted to start a Twitter account to follow really nerdy things. So I wanted it separate from my personal one. But just nerdy things like QuickBooks, and Minnesota revenue and different accounting things. So I came up with just savvy bird is my handle for Twitter. And when I started my business two years ago, I took a couple minutes to think about what I wanted to name it and realize I had already created a name for myself. And I wanted to use the word consulting, because I wanted it to kind of be more of a broad, kind of like a broad name. Like I do accounting, but I didn't want to kind of be boxed into Oh, she only does taxes, which I don't do, or she only Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 24:11

you know,

Kayla Prusinksi 24:12

I wanted to be more broad of like I'm doing, I want to consult with you and work with your financial, like, your financial need and your financial walk.

Jenna Redfield 24:21

Yeah, for sure. And so why did you move to Minneapolis? Was it just you just want to live over there? Is there more? Is it for business reasons? Or why did you decide to move?

Kayla Prusinksi 24:32

There were a lot of reasons actually, um, I had a lot of friends who are kind of in the Minneapolis area, I moved to Manhattan, because where I worked was out that way. So I lived like 10 to 15 minutes away from work for some, you know, that's where my work was for seven years. So it was really nice living close, but not working there anymore. I wanted to be more in this city more near the people that I wanted to spend time with, because I was commuting into cities all the time. So that was kind of the main drive of that. And it also is a big perk for business because I wanted to work more with creatives and more with just small businesses. And I knew that there were so many there. Yeah, so it's been really fun.

Jenna Redfield 25:17

Yeah, so what what are your favorite things to do? Because you say you lived in northeast? Yeah. Where does there any like local places you like to go on a regular basis? Um,

Kayla Prusinksi 25:25

well, I have a dog. And so we've gone some to the St. Anthony dog park, like sit there. And we've done for some runs some there's, like, you know, around the area as well. I like going to coffee shops. I don't really drink coffee, but I don't either. Go in there and just hail. I like finding the ones that have great alternatives to coffee. Yeah.

Jenna Redfield 25:49

chai latte is my favorite.

Kayla Prusinksi 25:51

Yeah, yeah. So I like just kind of going there or just being outside going to the lakes, different things like that.

Yeah, I I don't know. And I think that too, that there's a lot of great smaller networking things. Yeah, I'd really been able to be a part of that I like going to just like in the evenings and stuff like that. Sure.

Jenna Redfield 26:11

Yeah. Is that? So I guess one of the questions I have was, how do you get besides that website that you mentioned, local referrals? Because you said you get referrals? But is it? How do you meet those people to begin with?

Kayla Prusinksi 26:23

Yeah. So I'd say have come from the pro advisor site and have come from some sort of referral. And that is made up of just people that I meet. So from networking, things that I'll do, or, or just like talking to talking to my friends, my friends will like for me to do clients refer me to other people, which is like, the best feeling because like, you know, you've done something when one of your clients, you know, refers you to someone else. So that's really great. And then yeah, friends will refer me to other people too. So

Jenna Redfield 26:58

that's really great. Because I know people always ask, that's one of our most asked questions is how do I get new business? How do I market myself? And so final questions? What is your biggest piece of advice for people who are starting out in QuickBooks? Like what? Like, should they hire someone? When did they know that they need to hire someone to help them? I guess, huh,

Kayla Prusinksi 27:20

yeah, I guess there are, I would say there are some like YouTube videos that are free and things like that, that you can use to kind of get familiar with QuickBooks understand kind of how things work. If it's super overwhelming, I would say get help. Hmm, I think that's one of the biggest things that I see with people is that they kind of open the software, and it's just overwhelming that they don't want to do it. Yeah, it's kind of one of those necessary evils with owning a business is you have to do something with the financial. So if you're super overwhelmed, then I would say hire someone, it's going to give you a lot more peace of mind. Just meeting with someone and helping them tell you like, you can do it. You know, you're not crazy to feel overwhelmed. Like, it's a lot to handle. But like we'll walk through it,

Jenna Redfield 28:08

you know? Yeah. Because I think a lot of the times people think, Oh, I'm gonna have to hire someone to help me all the time when they're like, oh, it could just be a one time thing. And then they can do it themselves. Yeah. So I know a lot of people are do it themselves, because they can't obviously, maybe afford to have like a full time bookkeeper. So is that kind of what you decided to do is kind of just just do a consultant right away? And then do you or do you follow up with people years down the road? Yeah, that work?

Kayla Prusinksi 28:34

Yeah. So when I started my business, I was like, I'm just going to do bookkeeping, and then everyone wanted me to just show them how to win. So then I decided to just do training. And then I get a lot of people asking me to do the bookkeeping. So it's kind of funny how, you know, I kind of do both for certain clients. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I know, a lot of people just want to be able to do it on their own, because it is a huge expense. If you're a small business, yes.

Jenna Redfield 28:59

Want to do it for you, for sure. Um,

Kayla Prusinksi 29:02

so I love training clients and empowering them to learn how to do it themselves. And I was meeting with a client this last this last couple weeks, and she's like a pro at it. I showed her how to do a couple things. And in the meantime, when I wasn't meeting with her, she's like, so I figured out how to do this. And I'm like,

you don't even need me. No, this is great. Yeah,

Jenna Redfield 29:22

that's, that's good to know that what you teach people, it actually encourages them to learn it themselves, I guess. sense.

Kayla Prusinksi 29:29

Yeah, yeah.

So I usually do, like I said, the two to our trainings. And then I'm always available for like phone calls or emails, I have some clients where they'll email me and they'll say, you know, hey, I'm really stuck. I don't know what's going on. The great thing with QuickBooks Online is I can just log into their account,

I can see what's going on. If they give me you know, enough information. Yeah. And then what I'll do is I'll take screenshots, and I'll just

say, like, this is what you need to do in an email. And then I'll have them do it themselves.

So instead of going in and fixing it for them, kind of like, you know, you lead a horse to water, we can make it drink, like I'm showing them, this is how you will do it. Because you'll probably run into this later. And now you can reference this email, and you've already done it before. So can you just kind of gain more confidence in that?

Jenna Redfield 30:15

So what's kind of, are you going to continue doing the same thing you're doing going forward? Are you going to maybe consider really doing courses or anything? Have you ever looked into that?

Unknown Speaker 30:23

Yeah, I have thought about doing courses a lot.

Kayla Prusinksi 30:27

I like the in person stuff. So that's why a lot of my clients are here. I like meeting with clients, one on one versus kind of over the internet.

So I've thought about doing kind of in person courses and like a library or

something, or maybe doing them online. I think right now, it's just like figuring out the content of those courses. Because when I meet with clients, the first thing I do is I figure out them individually as

a business. And then we go from there. Whereas if I'm doing kind of a course it's going to be very cookie cutter.

Jenna Redfield 31:00

Yeah, that's true.

Kayla Prusinksi 31:01

Yeah. So and I think that there are, you know, great options out there for that already. So

it's kind of like, do I need to reinvent the wheel for that crew?

But I don't know, who knows? Yeah.

Jenna Redfield 31:13

I mean, I just, I'm curious, because I feel like you could sustain this as is, but you could also, you know, try to grow even more, you know, and try to maybe scale it up a bit. And we'll see what happens. I mean, it's always that that question of, do I remain how I am? Or do I change it up? Yeah, but I think it just depends on the person and what they want with their business. Yeah,

Kayla Prusinksi 31:35

yeah. And I know, that would be good, great visibility, to be able to say, like,

here are the things you can do. And let's go over the basics, because I have taught a course before through another organization. And so being able to say, like, here are the basics, here's what we can cover, you know, and I'm available, you don't have to sign up and work with me individually. But I am available if you want to go deeper in it. And I so I know that that's an option. It would just be you know, taking the time

do that. And I probably want just to like meet with someone who's done courses before because I've never met.

Jenna Redfield 32:06

I know people. So I'll get you connected. Yeah, so Well, thank you so much for coming. How do we all find you online? How do we find you?

Kayla Prusinksi 32:15

So I have a website savvy bird consulting com SAVVY Studios in that,

and I'm working on getting that website updated? So I don't know if you want to check it now. And then check back.

Jenna Redfield 32:29

Yeah, this will be going up, I believe next week. So this so this should be up in July? Probably the July 3, Monday. So yeah, sure. So maybe by then.

Kayla Prusinksi 32:40

Yeah. And then I also have a Facebook page. So Sarah bird consulting there. And then I also have a newly Instagram I'm kind of learning from my creative. Instagram.

Jenna Redfield 32:51

It's important thing to have. Yeah, that's I think that's actually how I found you. Okay, because I, we did a follow thread and I followed you and I was like, she does like we're QuickBooks. You know, it's funny, because because it a lot of people, especially in the collective, that's kind of how they found us too. And so I find that that by being on Instagram, I think that you'll get a lot more eyes on your business that you might not have had before. So I think that's super important. So that's awesome that you're on Instagram, because that's, to me, that's I think every business should be on there.

Kayla Prusinksi 33:20

I know. I hear that a lot. And I'm just I'm kind of like, but I do QuickBooks,

what kind of picture

Jenna Redfield 33:25

honestly, you need to brand yourself as the QuickBooks for like creatives or something. I know people that are the attorneys for creatives or the copywriter for creatives. Like if you maybe brand yourself that way, people will flock to you because that's exactly you know, that's who they need is someone who understand I have a Winnie Reese who I am having on the podcast in August. I've already recorded the session with her, but she's kind of branded herself as the lawyer for creatives. Yeah. And so I feel like for me, that instantly made me be like, she's gonna be my lawyer because she understands the creative side, she had a wedding planning business. So I think that by branding yourself maybe as like the QuickBooks for small business and creatives, that'd be the perfect way for you to, to kind of niche yourself. Yeah. I think you've already done that. So yeah. So well, thank you so much for coming in today, Kayla. I hope that you guys enjoy this episode. We'll have some more episodes coming up soon about accounting. I'm having a personal finance woman come in and she's a good friend of mine. So I'm very excited to have her on the podcast as well. So I'll see you guys next week. Thank you guys so much for listening to the conversations with creatives podcast from the Twin Cities Collective. Make sure to head over to iTunes to subscribe to this podcast so you won't miss an episode. New episodes come out every single Monday. And also make sure to give us a review so that we can get more people listening and so that we can give you even more episodes of the podcast. Make sure to also check out our website Twin Cities Collective com where you can learn more about us join our Facebook group join our online business and blogger directories as well as learn more about events that are coming up that host every single month. Thank you so much again to Allison hall for creating our awesome podcast cover photo as well as Nicola. Hi, les for the use of the song in the intro and our intro. Thanks again guys for listening and I'll see you next week. Bye.