Creating a company that gives back

Creating a company that gives back

An interview with Mitch Reume, founder at Minnesota Mall & Northern Glasses

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I'm really excited about this episode of the podcast. This episode I'm interviewing Mitch Reem, who is a college classmate of mine, I met him and his wife at college, and we were both in the same major as well as the same graduating class. And I reconnected with him after graduating after finding out that he had started this awesome company called the voice MN, which is an online marketplace where 7% of the proceeds go towards a charity of the company's choice. So it's really cool. It's a way to give back while also buying products that are made by a Minnesota vendors. So I hope that you guys really liked this episode. And let's get started. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Twin Cities Collective podcast conversations with creatives. I'm very excited today to be joined by Mitch who runs a few different companies. So Mitch, do you want to introduce yourself?

Mitch Reaume 1:31

Hello, my name is Mitch Riam, my wife and I live in Minneapolis. And two years ago, I started the voice community. And just this past January, I started northern classes.

Jenna Redfield 1:43

Yeah, so can you kind of explain like why you decided to start it because I we actually knew each other a little bit in college. But I, I was kind of surprised when I found out that you were starting a business. So what what was kind of the catalyst to start that?

Mitch Reaume 1:56

Yeah, so kind of the driving force between all of our brands is that we're building brands to fight for things that matter. And so first started, when a couple years ago, I was sitting down at the kitchen, looking at my wife and I spending and I realized, I hated an assumption that I bought that the only money that had any impact was the money it was going straight out the part of charity. And I figured what would it look like to give purpose to the money we're going to spend on food and clothing and home decor and cute crap, as I call it, the my wife likes to buy, like, what would it look like to get purposed all that spending. And so voice was born out of that one came first. And voices an online marketplace for Minnesota where 7% of everything the customer spends, goes to a local charity and the customers choice. And so started off going out from that direction and just trying to figure out what does it look like to give more meaningful spending to everyday people. And then from there and Northen glasses was born. And I was just kind of captured by the potential that business has to do good. And so northern glasses, you get a glass, we give a gallon. So 7% of sales, go to an organization called Charity Water, which is bringing clean and safe drinking water to developing nations. And so we sell pint glasses, coffee mugs, all sorts of stuff like that, with, that's all branded differently, we have five or six different graphic designers that are just constantly submitting new designs.

Jenna Redfield 3:26

Cool. So how how did you even get started with the idea? Like I mean, you had the idea, but then you're like, I want to make this a business like what what point did that happen?

Mitch Reaume 3:35

Yeah, so and I was sitting in the kitchen, thinking about what this would look like to give purpose to the rest of life spending, I started imagining a mall, where 7% are, were actually I started off thinking about where 10% of everything you spend goes to a charity of your choice and what it would look like for businesses to come together and kind of win their customers business by sharing in their heartbeat, not just charging the customer premium. But saying we see that you value this and we want to join you in that. And so I started picturing sort of the small concept and what it would look like to shop that way. And really I just started building out an answer to a problem that I had, which is how do I how do I spend my money more meaningfully?

And that's kind of what started it all rolling.

Unknown Speaker 4:23

Yeah. So how did you get your first people on board?

Jenna Redfield 4:27

And find them? And how did you decide

Mitch Reaume 4:28

who you're going to feature? A lot of emails, a lot of phone calls,

getting rejected a lot. And what was actually really surprised because once I got meetings with people, and they heard about what voice was going to be and what we were going to do, people were really quick to jump on. There's a lot of really cool Minneapolis businesses that are looking to do good with their business that that were captured by this idea of of using their influence in their business to do good. The hard part was getting that meeting. So a lot of cold calling a lot of just not hearing back. But eventually we got enough partners in the door where it felt like okay, we're not going to be opening feeling like an empty mall. Let's go for it.

Jenna Redfield 5:12

So how many people did you have any started and how many people do now?

Mitch Reaume 5:16

When we started it was about

probably 16 or so. And now somewhere in the 30s. So

Jenna Redfield 5:27

it's been you've been doing this for how long? for

Mitch Reaume 5:32

two years now? Yep.

Jenna Redfield 5:34

Cool. So what was your first big win when you first started like did you get sales right away? Or did was it like slow?

Mitch Reaume 5:43

We actually our first big win was kare 11. Hadassah, okay, um, I kind of feel cheated, being able to get on there, because they had us on before we'd even had 10 sales, I think they probably thought we were more built out than we were. But having them so early was really helpful in getting our name out there, and brought in some good early sales. So we felt really lucky and thankful for Carolina. I think they probably don't know how small we were and how, just where we were at. But that was our first like, big one. How

Jenna Redfield 6:15

did they even find you?

Mitch Reaume 6:16

Did you like email them? Or I think that was some email or email barrage to the to the press. So

Jenna Redfield 6:24

that's, I think that's always the hardest part about when you start a business is how do you even get yourself out there whether anything's that you learned, right?

Mitch Reaume 6:32

Yeah, um, you just have to have a thick skin. I was like, I had this fanciful idea. It was like, everyone's going to be immediately drawn and captured by this idea. And that was true sometimes. And sometimes people wouldn't even open my email and read it. And I wouldn't get a call back. And so it's just getting used to this. Oh, yeah. You like really have to work and push through sort of people's just your own brands that people don't know it. You have to you have to get through that.

Jenna Redfield 7:00

Yeah. Cuz I think that when people start businesses, they don't realize how much you have to put into the marketing. Right? And that's really, and I guess, the sales to the more the marketing just to get your name out there. Right. So how has it changed since you first started? Like, what do you do now that you didn't do that? That to get your name out there? Are you doing or networking? Like, what is your main way of people finding out about you?

Mitch Reaume 7:21

Yeah, that's a really good question.

So northern glasses and voice are kind of growing in tandem with each other. Because when people learn about one, they'll usually learn about the other. And so one thing that's been really helpful is through northern glasses, we get to work with a lot of great retailers that are that are carrying our product. And having them talking about our product and sharing it whether its debut at Mall of America, or kids on our lake and co shop or these different shops around Minnesota. We have these different partners that are talking about us that have been a really big win for us that we're really proud to partner.

Jenna Redfield 7:59

Yeah, I remember that. You guys were at the mall America. And I know there's other Minnesota companies there. How does that shop work?

Mitch Reaume 8:07

Yeah, so debut is a store right now the theme of shop for kindness. And they brought in I forget what the total number that was landed on, it kept growing a little bit, but it's about 15 brands. A lot of what you're from Minnesota here that the theme is shopper kindness. And so they all have some sort of social component to what they're doing, whether it's planting a tree or giving school supplies. For us, it's giving giving a gallon of water and giving water to Charity Water. And so there's all these different brands with some aspect of social component. And so that wraps up and I should probably know when I think it's in August, okay. Yeah, it also might be September, but and then they'll flip it over. It's a really cool story. They just keep rebranding it. And I know aspects.

Jenna Redfield 8:52

For sure. So when you kind of got started, what, what did you was trying to think of a question. I'm sorry. I'm just like, trying to think, um, I guess I wanted to ask, oh, so when you first got started, and you wanted to give back to charities? How did you decide on what charities get back to?

Mitch Reaume 9:18

Yeah, so with voice, we created a list of 10 that are just well known and respected in Minnesota. And we tried to create a wide array of whether it's people who are passionate about the environment, or veterans or we were just trying to think about what do our customers care about? And we actually took a survey trying to figure out, what are things that you wish people would invest in more. And so whether it's kids all these, this less than so we got this list of 10, just different nonprofits, and then with northern glasses, we were actually this really compelled by the way that they run their nonprofit, Charity Water that is, and I wanted, build a brand around what they're doing. And so for them, it was different. It was more I personally was drawn to their understanding of being a nonprofit, and how to do things. And so we just decided to build and

Jenna Redfield 10:13

did they support you at all? Or is it more just like, really, thanks for the money? I mean, we're probably

Mitch Reaume 10:17

too small to be on their radar so far. But hopefully, someday we will know them better and can work together more,

Jenna Redfield 10:25

for sure. So how has the community helped your business grow? Like, I know that you guys are nominated for some awards, like maybe like a year ago, and I know that like it's been growing. So how is like the community helped with that?

Mitch Reaume 10:38

Yeah, we want a few awards with Minnesota business magazine, that was great. Minneapolis is just a really cool area where people want to see creatives and entrepreneurs, or whoever it may be, we want to see each other succeed. And so just seeing the way that people use their social media to help get us out there, or people want to write about us, or people reaching out saying, Hey, I think I have this to offer. People want to see each other succeed, which is really cool. I don't know if it's like that in all cities. But I would assume no, yeah. So I think just being in the Minneapolis area, and having this community of people who are just trying and probably willing to fail. But give another go is is a really big part of of why we are where we are.

Jenna Redfield 11:25

For sure. I agree with that. And at the Twin Cities Collective, we also like to support small businesses as well. Have you? I haven't how has been like the social media marketing part of it? Is that been something that you've worked on? Or how specifically, have you marketed like your website and gotten people to come to that?

Mitch Reaume 11:41

Yeah, so it's been pretty heavily, most of our time goes towards Facebook and Instagram. And it's great when I have time to do it, but having another full time job, sometimes we get put on the back burner, and I just don't have time for it. Feel I feel the impact that it has when I am doing it. And when I'm not doing it. Yeah. And so it's kind of I'll have a couple week period where I do have time to put a lot towards that. And then it'll be gone for a couple of weeks, and we'll be able to do anything. And so it's really hitting mess and based on just where is 10 when I have time sharing?

Jenna Redfield 12:18

Yeah, cuz I find that that's hard to because sometimes you're working and so you don't have time to market, right? Kind of, I don't know if there's like time balancing time being like, like, almost like scheduling. Right time be like, Okay, well, this is gonna go out at this time. Yeah. And if that's something that you ever do,

Mitch Reaume 12:33

I love the idea of doing that. But it's not something I'm able to do, ya know, it's more of a scrambling around trying to get stuff done when I have time.

Jenna Redfield 12:41

Right. Sure. And then so how do you do your? Are you just featuring companies that are part of voice? Or how is that

Mitch Reaume 12:48

I'm voice? Yeah, we'll highlight different products that we're featuring, or different nonprofits or whatever it may be with northern glasses. It's more precious driven. A lot of people share their products when they get one. Because you get a 15% off on your next order if you do that. And so we've gotten some awesome images from people who are just excited to have their glasses and want to share them.

Jenna Redfield 13:17

Can you describe the glasses for people?

Mitch Reaume 13:19

Yeah, so the majority of them are pint glasses, just beer glasses with different graphic design sign on weather. And so there's a bunch of different themes, whether it's travel inspired, or the North like Minnesota themed or just humorous sayings. There's a lot of just different unique glasses. And what we've noticed is people really like building a four pack tailored around someone that they're buying for. So it's a way that you can build a custom gift for someone that fits their personality without spending two or $300 on it, instead, you're spending 30 bucks on the four

Jenna Redfield 13:52

package. Deal. So how do you make them,

Mitch Reaume 13:56

we print them all here in Bloomington. And my family actually owns a glass printing company. And so yeah, my father in law is work with him a lot. And he's really great. And we just do it all here in Bloomington and have our pool of designers mostly from the Twin Cities, but got one in Vancouver one, we've got them from a couple different places, but largely in the Twin Cities and just kind of bring bring the designers and the printing together. And

Jenna Redfield 14:22

that's awesome. Yeah, that's so cool. Right? So, so a little bit more. Get to know a little bit more about your backstory. So I've always grown to Minnesota. What's your backstory?

Mitch Reaume 14:33

Yeah, I grew up I went to was, so I know you went to sorry. But uh, went to was that a and then for college when stayed in state went to Bethel. And, yeah, spent my whole life in the Twin Cities here. I always feel kind of naive saying this, because I haven't lived somewhere else. But I'm pretty sure Minneapolis is like one of the best places to live. I don't have a lot to stand on making that argument because I haven't lived elsewhere. But I just love it here. So

Jenna Redfield 15:03

yeah, for sure. And I, I know that you do a very different job during the day. So how has it How is balancing the two different jobs?

Mitch Reaume 15:11

Yeah, so full time. I'm a pastor at a church in Delano, Minnesota Coco River. And I feel I feel kinda bratty sometimes saying that I have two jobs I love because I know some people don't even have one. So I'm really thankful for that. But balancing it is. It's hard. I mean, I'm 40 hours at the church and then stuff with voice and northern classes is just hopefully I have a few hours this night to slot in. And hopefully I have a few hours this weekend the slot and and so really, it's kind of where I have availability is what I'm able to give to voice in our classes. So it's tricky, for sure. Yeah,

Jenna Redfield 15:53

we were actually there was just a conversation on this call today about side hustlers. And this is probably Yeah, yeah, it's on the side. And that's how my business was for a while was I would do my job. And then I would do on the side. Is this kind of your long term end goal is to do this full time? Or do you still want to be a pastor as well,

Mitch Reaume 16:11

I love being a pastor. So I don't have any plans of of leaving. But I do also love running my companies. And so I'm trying to navigate like, what does that look like to do both and do both? Well? So it's a great question. I don't have an answer for you. Yeah,

Jenna Redfield 16:28

yeah. Cuz I'm wondering, like, if you scale and you start, you know, taking on more employees and stuff. I mean, then you wouldn't have to be as you know, they would ever maybe like the marketing, right? And if that's something you could say,

Mitch Reaume 16:39

yeah, I mean, hiring in the next year is something I would love to get to the place to be able to hire even if it's just one person to sign something. Yeah, one of my graphic designers out there knows that I've been wanting to steal her. So yeah, that's awesome.

Jenna Redfield 16:54

And so how did you find the graphic designers?

Mitch Reaume 16:57

Summer friends?

One is the one who built my logo for voice. It's kind of random connections that have come along the way one of them is. I mean, Adam Turman, we work with him a bit. He's pretty well known in Minneapolis. And, yeah, it's kind of a hodgepodge of stuff. But one of them I just discovered on Pinterest, and I was really into her style. And so it's really random. Yeah. But I really like people we're working with they do a great job.

Jenna Redfield 17:28

That's awesome. And how, how do you use research? Because I feel like when you're first starting head, probably find all these companies that you may not have ever heard of. How did you even get started on like, reaching out?

Mitch Reaume 17:39

Yeah. Some of it was looking at other retail retail shops in Minnesota and seeing what local companies they're partnering with some of it. I mean, a lot of time on Google, Minnesota business magazine is a great resource. But yeah, basically, I just had a list on my phone that anytime I saw a brand that I even wondered, is them made up Minnesota seven, Minnesota based company, I would just put it in my phone, and then I'd come back to it later. And sometimes it was and sometimes it wasn't, but it was just a lot of being really mindful for I spent about a year before voice Oh, really? I didn't know that. Yeah. So there's about a year before we like opened our doors where I was just gathering companies are now kind of getting ready to open.

Jenna Redfield 18:21

Yeah, so I guess going on because this month's topic is about launching a business. So why did you spend a year preparing? Like, why didn't you just go let's launch I know that that's fine. to do is just to be like, let's let's open but because I'm kind of impulsive. Just be like, let's do it. So why did you take so long to to prepare, I guess,

Mitch Reaume 18:39

because when I was picturing like this walking into this mall, I mean, it's online, but and I think of it as a mall type experience. No one wants to go into a mall with two stores, and then a bunch of vacancies, right? You want to go in and see, oh, wow, this is a store over here in this brand over here. And there's such a diversity of products. And I wanted to make sure I would rather start later and do it. Well, yeah, then start too early and have three brands in. And so it's just a matter of when did I feel like we were full enough that it would be worth watching?

Jenna Redfield 19:11

And so what were some of the steps you took to even launch? Did you see like, what were some of the legal stuff that you did?

Mitch Reaume 19:17

Yeah, I'm still figuring all that stuff. Yeah, we filed our LLC. Got RC I like the legal part is like my favorite thing that in taxes are like, such a headache, doing online business. So spent time just figuring out it was a lot. It was actually a lot more simple to file an LLC and do that part than I thought like, I hear that and it sounds really official. And I'm like, great. I'm going to hire someone, like get a piece of paper someday

Jenna Redfield 19:47

of hiring someone just because I don't do yeah, like I understand, like, I could have done it myself. Right. Like, I don't want to deal with it and like, mess it up. But yeah, I understand. And so, like, so then you also like, so welcome. When did you launch your website? Was that right? When you launched? Or did you like, did you start being like, Oh, it's coming soon? Or like, how did you kind of get

Mitch Reaume 20:06

people excited about our Facebook page open probably six months before we launched the website. And then when we launched the website was that after a year of getting businesses together another he said basically, the mall is open spots open. So I'm say it was basically the launch. Right? Okay. Yes,

Jenna Redfield 20:22

yeah. Have you ever thought about having a physical storefront for all like, because I know a lot of them are probably featured and other surface. But have you thought about potentially opening up like

Mitch Reaume 20:32

a storefront? Yeah, we've been looking at some, like loosely. Yeah, nothing official know, we've been doing a little bit of research. We've got a few bigger priorities first. But it's definitely something that's I'm kind of experimenting with ideas off.

Jenna Redfield 20:47

Yeah. Cuz I'm always wondering because I went to the mall yesterday to get my computer fixed. And it was just pretty empty. And so I'm like, I was kind of wondering, what's the future of retail? Yes, it online? Or do you think that like people still go to stories?

Mitch Reaume 21:01

Yeah, that's a great question. One of them that we're trying to figure. I think a few like destination, malls are going to make it and you'll see it being more experiential than just Hey, we have product, but it will be the it'll be more experience oriented and saw some of the questions for us like northern glasses, invoices, if we were to launch a store? How do you make that like giving aspect tangible? Or how do you make the brand an experience? And not just Sure, I mean, we want people to be really excited about their product. But how do you make it more than that? Something that that is memorable. And so that's,

Jenna Redfield 21:37

it would be cool if you guys did like a boss or something or a travel. Yeah. And then you can put products in there. I know, like some companies have done right. Right.

Mitch Reaume 21:46

Or when they're done while they're really

Jenna Redfield 21:47

yeah, I've seen like, I remember when I went to sort of clothing at the mall at the State Fair. Yeah. had like a little thing parked and right, like shirts in there. I thought that was really great.

Mitch Reaume 21:57

Yeah, those are really cool. And then

Jenna Redfield 22:00

Are there any new things coming up like new companies joining or new sort of services that you're going to plan on offering and feature?

Mitch Reaume 22:09

Yeah, the thing we're working on right now is both northern glasses, some of the bigger retailers are, we're in conversations with. But doing limited edition runs, where there's only going to be 100 of these classes is something we're excited about and offering just continuing to offer really unique products that people are proud to own. That's kind of the one that's in play right now, as time allows the like the

Jenna Redfield 22:36

main focus some project? Are you planning to do more with voice? Are you trying to grow northern?

Mitch Reaume 22:42

Depends what they say. Okay, because northern glasses is so no, it's for sure been taking more time recently, and voice has been kinda sustaining itself, while northern glass has been getting all the attention, but at some point, it'll swing back. And then I'll say, Okay, let's focus on voice now. Yeah, glasses, you kind of do your thing.

Jenna Redfield 23:02

I guess. I don't know if we can cut this question out. But yeah, um, so how does the financing work for when you sell on your website? Like, what cut Do you guys take?

Mitch Reaume 23:13

Yeah, so we run just like any other retail store where we're either buying wholesale or doing consignment. And the only difference is we're doing it on smaller margins. So we are building in that 7% out of the profits that we make, and also sharing it with the brands that are selling through us. And so typically, three and a half percent will come from us, three and a half percent will come from them. Or some breakdown in there. And yeah, so one thing that was really, really important to me starting it is that customers aren't paying a premium to shop this way. That model was great. And like, Toms, people love to rip on times, when they love times, it goes either way. But one thing they did is they put social business kind of on people's radar. And their model is essentially charge a premium. Right, I'll sell you this $10 pair of shoes for 20. And I'll use the extra 10 to give another pair whatever it looks like. That was a great starting place. I want to see part of my vision of seeing more businesses owning the charity that's happening. And so we want to have skin in the game and show our customers that we're not just like charging a tax on you to do this good. We're actually owning and saying we think you should be able to shop this way. And

Jenna Redfield 24:33

I guess it's interesting, because I know there's not everyone would want to give away productive profit. So was it hard to convince people or do people have the heart for it?

Mitch Reaume 24:41

I was surprised at how, like I was saying, once I got that meeting how quick people were to jump on. I thought people were going to be a lot harder to convince. And I thought maybe I was just too jaded, but I thought people were greedier than they are. But people were quick to want to do something good with their business. And

Jenna Redfield 25:02

is there any thing that has been a surprise or a challenge to my knees? gotten this business going? Like what like, I know you've walked into it, but you probably had no idea what you're getting into what what has been some like any, like stories or anything?

Mitch Reaume 25:15

Yeah, I'm

one. One kind of, I don't know if I call it a challenge. But one thing that is really fun for me to see is a lot of times when I'll go to a meeting with someone, and all we've done is email. I'm a lot younger than they expect me to be. And there's this moment where they're like, the guy leaving voice nothing less. I'm just younger than that. And that's kind of like a fun, unexpected thing. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I'm only just 25. Yeah.

Jenna Redfield 25:48

But it's interesting, because I mean, I guess a couple years ago, you were even younger? You're a little bit older.

Mitch Reaume 25:56

Yeah. So my first my first meeting sounds like 22 with people and what do you know about nothing really what I believe and where we're going and what we're doing.

Jenna Redfield 26:06

And I think that that's something that I want to tell our audiences. It doesn't matter how old you are, you can start a business at any age, honestly.

Mitch Reaume 26:12

Right? Yeah. It doesn't matter how old you are, or even. I think sometimes people get hung up on like, I don't have a business degree. But my degree is in theology, and Communication Studies. So I know nothing of like, academic business world. speaking out as I go.

Jenna Redfield 26:31

Yeah, that was what I want to regret. I wish I had double majored in business.


yeah. Cuz I mean, as a communications major, too. And so it was like hard because I was like, I like the major. But I wish I had more of that business background. Sure. You know, how to raise money or how to like, right? I don't know, there's, but I think that because business, it can help you in any type of job that you have. You don't have a business degree, it's like you understand that this has worked, because I read a quote the other day that said, like, 97% of people work for the 3% that never gave up their dream. Hmm. So because like, like, if you have a job, you're working for someone who started the business, right? So it's just like, interesting to me about that way that like, if you're starting a business, and you bring on employees, those are the people working for someone who started a business. Interesting. Yeah. This is out there. Right Head Start. Oh, someone put their neck out

Mitch Reaume 27:19

at some. Yeah.

Jenna Redfield 27:20

So do you see, like, I guess I want to know, from your perspective, because you work with a lot of small business owners. Is it harder or easier nowadays to start a business? Because like the internet is making it easier. But now there's a lot more people out there that are starting businesses, right. I think it's like over saturated the market, or how does somebody think about starting businesses? Yeah, I think

Mitch Reaume 27:41

some of both, I mean, resources like Shopify make doing retail online really easy for everyday people. Because it makes it so easy. There are a ton of them. And so doing it well. And being found and getting noticed is the challenging. Yeah. And so little bit of both. Yeah, it's easier, but it's also harder, because everyone and their mother is doing it. Yeah, that's true.

Jenna Redfield 28:06

Yeah. Cuz I found when I launched my Etsy shop, I was one of the first people to do it. And then all of a sudden, over the last year or so it's like, no, everyone does it. Yeah, it's harder to stick stand out, right. So moving forward, any other exciting things that you want to maybe talk about or want to share? anything, any tips with our audience? about like, if they're thinking about starting a business, like any, anything not to do, or? Yeah, lessons

Mitch Reaume 28:38

that you can make mistakes you've made, or I think one of the most important things to starting a business is like having a good handle on your personal finances to begin with. Yeah. We just bootstrapped and started with our own money. And we were able to do that. Because I mean, my wife's a teacher, I'm a pastor, we're not rolling in money by any means. But we are mindful of what we're doing with our money. Yeah. And because we're used to living that way, it allowed us to take a risk and do something like this. And so I think looking at your personal finances and figuring out like, Am I am I doing this? Well, do I know what I'm doing? And it's not just asking someone to help you get some sort of financial plan in place, I think is a huge overlooked aspect of it.

Jenna Redfield 29:26

Yeah. And I think that a lot of people are scared. If they are going like, starting with I think starting a business is easier than going into a full time. Yes. Because that leads that scary, right? Because when you start a business, like when I started mine, I literally had to pay 20 cents, but Etsy listing, right. Like for some businesses, there's not a lot of money to start out, and you just kind of grow as you go. No, I didn't, I didn't like, like, put a bunch of money in and then like much I just kind of like slowly grew it. I don't know if that is the right way to do it. Or there's just a always depends on how much money you have to start up with. Yeah, I feel like, just start, I think that's my advice, just start, just try it. If it doesn't work, you'll learn from it and maybe try a different way, right.

Mitch Reaume 30:10

And the advantage of starting when you have, like you're saying having another job and not having on it for the income that you can put the money back into the business and there's not enough pressure to pay yourself pending on it. That's true. And that's

Jenna Redfield 30:23

right. Um, that's, that's definitely a wake up call when you're like, this is your only income, right? And you know, and I talked to people who are full time, and it's like, sometimes they make a lot and then someone snuck nothing, right. It's like you kind of have to really budget yourself first and save and not, and not spend all the money that you make right away. So awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining me today. I want to ask you how we can find you online and how we can follow you. What are your handles and all that? Yeah,

Mitch Reaume 30:54

so Instagram, Facebook, we're both northern glasses, and Instagram, Facebook for voices the voice community. So the voice community calm northern glasses calm. And I could even create some sort of discount code for you.

I'm cool.

Unknown Speaker 31:13

Yeah, I'll put that in the link in the podcast. Great. And they can see that

Mitch Reaume 31:18

great. Oh, we'll figure out what that yeah. So

Jenna Redfield 31:21

cool. Because I would love and also I somebody listening has a business and they're interested in working with you. Is that something that you're willing to look at? Totally have like a product or something?

Mitch Reaume 31:30

Yeah, we haven't. We haven't been adding a ton recently. But we have a list of those that we want to talk to. And we do another round of adding. So yeah, we'd love to hear from people.

Jenna Redfield 31:41

Because I think a lot of people they would love to get. That's the nice thing about having another marketplace that's local it is it's another way for people to find out about you to like your marketing yourself. Right. And then getting sales. Right, exactly perfect. It's kind of like having a local XZ. Right. But like also does good. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, much for joining me today. And I'll talk to you guys next week. Thank you. Thank you guys so much for listening to the conversations with creatives podcasts from the Twin Cities Collective. Make sure to head over to iTunes to subscribe to this podcast so you won't miss an episode. New episodes come out every single Monday. And also make sure to give us a review so that we can get more people listening and so that we can give you even more episodes of the podcast. Make sure to also check out our website Twin Cities Collective com where you can learn more about us join our Facebook group join our online business and blogger directories as well as learn more about events that are coming up that we host every single month. Thank you so much again to Allison hall for creating our awesome podcast cover photo as well as Nicola. Hi, les for the use of the song in the intro and out Joe. Thanks again guys for listening and I'll see you next week. Bye.